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A middle point amongst the non informed people who depends on a desktop and the people who actually know what a desktop is, so they don't want to use such ugly cluttered thing ;)

Well, more seriously, if you want more acceleration (FPS) from your video card (Yeah!! Go check it out!), CPU power, drive speed, available RAM for "real" tasks, near real time computer usage and a clean environment you probably use a non-WIMP-computing-setup.

So if you don't depend on Gnome, KDE, or XFCE desktops surely you want to join us. Users of Xmonad, Ion2, Ion3, aewm++, larswm, evilwm, ratpoison, wmii, wm2, awesomewm, dwm, (pekwm, *box), fvwm and twm are very welcome !!. And, of course, Enlightenment (16-17) the fanciest light WMs we -all- love.

Here we can discuss issues with some apps and little tips to make more comfortable the already comfortable life without a desktop [...]

For more info (aka. RTFM) you are invited to read:
The anti-mac manifesto
http://www.sigchi.org/chi95/proceedings/panels/gen_bdy.htm?searchterm=anti+mac

The ION Manifesto:
http://modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/

What is WIMP?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WIMP_%28computing%29

Xmonad reviews:
http://xmonad.org/quotes.html

Ratpoison devs approach:
http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/

NOTE: This is not a "desktop haters" group, we just love handling our computers with freedom and usability in mind. Aesthetics and usability are two tight concepts since unmemorable times.

EDIT (a): Found this cute article with some tips in scripts and usability. Liked it because of the approach "For many users, the standard, full-blown desktop environments have either too many features, which slow the PC down, or too few to fulfill their specific needs."
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6415

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 Killed E17

 
 by seraphyn on: Nov 20 2008  
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I am using E16 and ion3. Faster and of course with cronos as time nicer. I don't know why, but after spend much time to compile a new version of E17 again and again i disagree to use it before it is stable.
Nice new features in E16, someone need to have a look at it.

greetz

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 Re: Killed E17

 
 by code933k on: Nov 21 2008  
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Well done ;)

Well, more seriously, I am totally towards e17 graphical libs if they get stable some day. Though I don't think I'll use the WM or the desktop. I just think e17 libs would beat some day GTK2 and Qt in terms of lightness and aesthetics.

Just a little biased personal thought.

By the way, what ion3 plugins are you using? Just curious. I do not maintain my plugins since a lot of time ago as I wont use ion anymore...

Natalie Portman's HOWTO RAP 0.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8e6-IeQ0aw
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 Re: Re: Killed E17

 
 by seraphyn on: Nov 21 2008  
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dopath("mod_query")
dopath("mod_tiling")
dopath("mod_menu")
dopath("mod_dock")
dopath("mod_statusbar")
dopath("mod_sp")
dopath("cfg_menus")
dopath("cfg_mymenu")
dopath("statusbar_workspace")
dopath("look-zenburn-ion3")

And the Rest is available to see in cfg_statusbar.lua: http://sprunge.us/IWjA

I like it like that. And zenburn are the best colors for my eyes.

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 Re: Re: Re: Killed E17

 
 by code933k on: Dec 6 2008  
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I can realize exactly what you meant when you talked about your poor eyes [...]

And I don't really changed too much internal affairs in ion. I think all's gone except for some modules: maildirs, file modification, a binary clock, etc. those for mod_statusbar.

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 Adding awesome

 
 by marcaemus on: Nov 21 2008  
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What about adding awesomewm to the list in the group description?

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 Re: Adding awesome

 
 by seraphyn on: Nov 24 2008  
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I think awesome should be in the list.

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 Re: Adding awesome

 
 by code933k on: Nov 26 2008  
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Done! I didn't noticed it wasn't there :p
Thanks to you for noticing this hole.

Natalie Portman's HOWTO RAP 0.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8e6-IeQ0aw
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 Re: Re: Adding awesome

 
 by marcaemus on: Nov 26 2008  
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Thanks.

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 obconf and segmentation fault

 
 by jdin on: Nov 24 2008  
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Hey guys, maybe you can help me to fix the following problem. I cannot run obconf after i have upgraded to intrepid. I think I have already tried everything: all versions of openbox and obconf in different combinations - but still obconf ends up with segmentation fault. I don't have any hope already to fix it. Please help!
Thank you very much in advance!


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 Re: obconf and segmentation fault

 
 by seraphyn on: Nov 25 2008  
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I think it is better to ask in a Ubuntuforum for that.
sorry for this hart and short answere but a segfault seems to be an Ubuntuerror...
Greetings

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 Re: obconf and segmentation fault

 
 by code933k on: Nov 26 2008  
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Sometimes this software segfaults are due to the lack of default configurations or upgrading without removing the older ones. Are you sure this isn't your case?

Try also installing by hand... after checking out what the web pages of this packages have to tell you about this particular problem.

Anyway, you got a wise advice: That's an Ubuntu problem and it should be better asked and answered at Ubuntu forums so that another users could benefit from your personal "trip into madness"...

Good luck.

Natalie Portman's HOWTO RAP 0.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8e6-IeQ0aw
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 Re: Re: obconf and segmentation fault

 
 by jdin on: Nov 26 2008  
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Thank you guys for the advices! am already trying to ask for the help on ubuntu forums. :) Thank you very much again!


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 Re: Re: obconf and segmentation fault

 
 by jdin on: Nov 28 2008  
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Thank you very much code933k! You post was really helpful! i checked and deleted all the files from previous installations of openbox and obconf and also i have removed all the themes of openbox. After that the problem disappear.


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 Re: Re: Re: obconf and segmentation fault

 
 by code933k on: Nov 30 2008  
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I am glad you were successful but a lot more for helping you to learn something new.

Have fun !!

Natalie Portman's HOWTO RAP 0.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8e6-IeQ0aw
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 Might want to include FVWM

 
 by ruskie on: Dec 1 2008  
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You left out fvwm from your nice list...

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 Re: Might want to include FVWM

 
 by code933k on: Dec 5 2008  
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Holy crap! Doing it As Fast As I Type!

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 A new addition and...

 
 by code933k on: Dec 5 2008  
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Found this cute article. 'Hope some people will enjoy it and find some fresh ideas there:
Quote:
"For many users, the standard, full-blown desktop environments have either too many features, which slow the PC down, or too few to fulfill their specific needs."
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6415

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 Re: A new addition and...

 
 by seraphyn on: Dec 7 2008  
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Thx.
Seraphyn

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 A Posting in the forum here

 
 by seraphyn on: Dec 15 2008  
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Have a look, would be nice to vote for, or just give an ACK.
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a
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page for nonDE's like:
- ion3
- awesome
- dwm
- wmii
- etc.
to share the configs, styles, scripts?
Just a suggestion, because some are forgotten here;)
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Happy XMas

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 Re: A Posting in the forum here

 
 by code933k on: Dec 17 2008  
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So what are you exactly proposing? An end of year WM poll?

Natalie Portman's HOWTO RAP 0.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8e6-IeQ0aw
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 Re: A Posting in the forum here

 
 by code933k on: Dec 17 2008  
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Crap! I've got you now :p What do you think is missing here..? Posting configs and so?

Natalie Portman's HOWTO RAP 0.1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8e6-IeQ0aw
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 Re: Re: A Posting in the forum here

 
 by seraphyn on: Dec 17 2008  
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Yep posting configs, Themes ( the colored one), possibilies for.xinitrc, .Xdefaults and so on.
I think that should be here, too.
Happy XMas

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 Re: A Posting in the forum here

 
 by marcaemus on: Dec 17 2008  
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that'd be cool. a bit like dotfiles.org.

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