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Geramik and ThinGeramik GTK Themes

0.027

Theme/Style GTK 1.x

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CraigD

Link: http://
Downloads: 39870

Submitted: Nov 14 2002
Updated: Oct 19 2003

Description:

GTK theme and engine intended to make GTK applications have a similar look
to the Keramik KDE style.

The theme, and pixmaps within, are based upon the alpha release of Keramik_GTK
by Goamaus. However, most pixmaps have been re-created, and/or modified.

Geramik requires QtPixmap >=0.26 (QtPixmap is no longer included in the Geramik archive. Get QtPixmap from http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=7043)

Screenshot 2 is of Mandrake's diskdrake - showing the recolouring of buttons.

To install:

tar zxvf Geramik-0.23.tar.gz
cd Geramik-0.23
./configure
make
make install (as root)

...then copy /usr/share/themes/Geramik/gtk/gtkrc to either /etc/gtk/gtkrc or ~/.gtkrc

...or for GTK2, copy
/usr/share/themes/Geramik/gtk-2.0/gtkrc to either /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc or ~/.gtkrc-2.0

Changelog:

0.27
----
1. Fix ThinGeramik horizontal scrollbar thumb.

0.26
----
1. Add "ThinGeramik" - GTK equivalent of ThinKeramik. This is the 1st version,
so will probably have some errors. Note: Menus in GTK2 apps will be the window
colour - can't figure out how to make this different!

(NOTE: Requires QtPixmap >= 0.26)

0.25... See "ChangeLog" in archive for previous entries...

License: GPL

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Going back to 0.05?

by robind on: Nov 21 2002

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robind

I'm having some troubles with 0.06 but no longer have a copy of 0.05, is there a way to get the older tarball?

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Problems with 0.06

by CraigD on: Nov 22 2002

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CraigD

What problems are you having exactly?

If you send me an email, then I can send you a copy of 0.05. But i'd really like to know what issues you have with 0.06

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Problems with 0.06

by robind on: Nov 22 2002

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robind

I found the 0.05 version already so no need to send it.

The problems I noticed were:

1. In some apps the color change for the mouse rollover of radio buttons and checkboxes would not go away when the mose moved away from the widget.
2. Sometimes when there is static text that changes, like in a status bar or a progress dialog, the old text is not cleared before the new is drawn.

Going back to 0.05 fixed these.

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Static text prob...

by whitney on: Nov 22 2002

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whitney

The 0.06 release is missing window_background.png. By copying this file from 0.05, I was able to fix the problem with static text not being cleared.

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0.06 problems...

by CraigD on: Nov 25 2002

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As stated by "whitney" 0.06 was missing window_background.png.

Anyway both of your problems should be fixed by 0.07 - this version also has much nicer check/radio buttons.

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bg color of text

by robind on: Nov 22 2002

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robind

Is there a way to make the background color of normal text fields be white like other widgets instead of grey? It looks like they are disabled. For example, in the first screenshot the bottom field of the Load Image dialog.

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Text colour

by CraigD on: Nov 22 2002

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CraigD

Geramik doesn't actually set the text colour - this should be done in KControl by selecting "Apply colours to non KDE-apps" (If KDE also did this for fonts, they'd be no need for Geramik to read/hack this from ~/.kderc)

In the screenshot the text is grey as that field is disbled - because no image is selected.

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Oops...

by CraigD on: Nov 22 2002

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CraigD

Sorry, I've just noticed what you're referring to. I'll try to fix this - if I can...

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Re: Oops..

by robind on: Nov 22 2002

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robind

Thanks

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Looks good

by voz on: Nov 24 2002

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voz

It actually looks better than the "real" Keramik. I like the striped title bar, I never understood why it got removed from the original.

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KDE icons

by arendjr on: Nov 25 2002

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Like cwoelz mentioned, would it be possible to let GTK apps use the KDE icons also? The default GTK icons don't really fit with [G/K]eramik.

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icons...

by CraigD on: Nov 25 2002

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CraigD

Ther is work on a common icon theme spec - see www.freedesktop.org.

But this is a little bit more than what Geramik can do...

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Font problems

by standsolid on: Nov 26 2002

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I had font problems with Geramik/GTK2. All GTK2 themes matched font to font from KDE, but Germik was resistent with using that Time font :p. i did this

include "/usr/share/themes/Geramik/gtk-2.0/gtkrc-2.0"

style "user-font"
{
font_name="Sans 10"
}
widget_class "*" style "user-font"

sweeeet. looks good. I use mandrake

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fonts...

by CraigD on: Nov 26 2002

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CraigD

...but won't this override your font settings? Or does it act as a fallback? i.e. if ~/.kderc specified Arial, and GTK couldn't use that, would it then use "Sans 10" - or does it always use "Sans 10"??

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acctaully

by standsolid on: Nov 26 2002

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kderc specified sans 10 (adobe hevetica really) but all the text on the widgets (tabs, input boxes EVERYTHING) would default to Times. Using this it overrides the Times entry and makes it a pretty sans for now. i will send all relevent files/screenshots if you wish.

now GTK ALWAYS uses sans 10 , which is how i have all my qt apps set up.

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fonts...

by CraigD on: Nov 27 2002

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CraigD

Could you post the "font=" line from ~/.kderc? I'm a little confused as to why kderc would say Sans 10 - I would have thought it would say "Arial 10", "Helvetica 10", etc..

Geramik reads the kderc font= line to try to create f a font description to be used by GTK2.

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RE: Font problems...

by CraigD on: Nov 28 2002

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CraigD

I've just noticed that if I start AbiWord, and then the GTK2 demo app - that the fonts for the demo are messed up.

If I start the demo, then Abi - then everything is OK.

This happens for Germik and the default (non-themed) GTK styles.

What I think is happening is that AbiWord stupidly adds font aliases for Times New Roman, Arial, etc even when you have these already installed! So if the GTK2 app (started 2nd) asks for "Arial 12" it'll get Abi's messed up version.

Maybe this is what is happening to you?

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nope

by standsolid on: Nov 28 2002

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naw. i'm using GAIM and GTK-DEMO (both gtk2) and the widget fonts are defaulting to times. for example, my font in gaim is tahoma. when i type in the imput box, it woyuld come up as times, but my buddy would see it as tahoma. i'll post a screenshot if you want to to explain it further

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here is a screenshot

by standsolid on: Nov 28 2002

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http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4170

that's two boxes... hopefully explain themselves

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and this

by standsolid on: Nov 28 2002

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from .kderc
font=adobe-helvetica,9,-1,5,0,0,0,0,0,0

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fonts...

by CraigD on: Nov 28 2002

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CraigD

Which version of Qt/KDE are you using? The font line should be something like:

font=Helvetica [Adobe],9,-1,5,0,0,0,0,0,0

and not:

font=adobe-helvetica,9,-1,5,0,0,0,0,0,0

Therfore Geramik is thinking your font is "adobe-helvetica", and asking GTK2 to find the font "adobe-helvetica 9" - whereas it should be just "Helvetica 9".

Have you edited this file by hand?

Could you try deleting ~/.kderc - and reseting the fonts via KControl?

I've using a CVS version of KDE - maybe this is why it works for and not you?

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I'm using KDE 3.1rc3

by standsolid on: Nov 30 2002

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and I'm going to try manually changing the line in kderc. i changed the font to helvetica in KControl in the first place, so i'm not sure how deleting kderc and resetting everything would help i'll try taht font line and see what goes

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ah

by standsolid on: Nov 30 2002

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success. i see now that it works PERFECTLY. thx for the help

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Gtk2 gnome crashes

by cookiemonster on: Dec 1 2002

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Hi, when I use the gtk2 version of this theme in my Gentoo/Gnome 2.0.3 system, it crashes Gnome. The gtk1 version works fine in Gnome, both gtk1 and gtk2 versions of the theme work fine when running gtk apps from within KDE. Here are the errors I get when trying to start Gnome while gnome-settings-daemon segfaults:

FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0
FAMOpen failed, FAMErrno=0

(gnome_segv:15746): WARNING : Couldn't load font "Verdana 10" falling back to "Sans 10"

(gnome_segv:15746): WARNING : Couldn't load font "Verdana 10" falling back to "Sans 10"

..

Any ideas?

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GNOME...

by CraigD on: Dec 2 2002

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CraigD

Short answer... GTK2 is stupid!!! If it can't find the requested font (Verdana) it looks for its default (Sans). If it can't find this it crashes! Why it doesn't just get the 1st available font I'll never know.

Anyway, I think the problem will be due to the fact the GTK2/GNOME2 can't see the same list of fonts as Qt/KDE can.

You should try looking at GNOME's font selector - find a font that you kike, then use this in KDE as well...

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makes sense

by cookiemonster on: Dec 2 2002

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cookiemonste r

Except the funny thing is...

The dialog in gtk2 that tells me that gnome-settings-daemon has crashed and asks me if I want to send a bug report - its text is displayed in verdana, futhermore, it uses Geramik style widgets as well! Strange huh?

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then...

by CraigD on: Dec 2 2002

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CraigD

...I haven't the faintest idea what's wrong, sorry...

I've just (last night) installed Mandrake 9 on my machine - so I can test Geramik with GNOME2/GTK2. Must say so far - GNOME is horrible. I really can't stand nautilus. I suppose I should play more before making such remarks, but I thought GNOME2 was meant to be so much better than GNOME1...

Anyway, I'm ironing out a few issues with GTK2/GNOME2 - colouring of nautilus's nav buttons, toolbar handles, etc...

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Geramik *and* ThinGeramik GTK Themes

Theme/Style GTK 1.x

Going back to 0.05?

I'm having some troubles with 0.06 but no longer have a copy of 0.05, is there a way to get the older tarball?

Problems with 0.06

What problems are you having exactly? If you send me an email, then I can send you a copy of 0.05. But i'd really like to know what issues you have with 0.06

Problems with 0.06

Static text prob...

The 0.06 release is missing window_background.png. By copying this file from 0.05, I was able to fix the problem with static text not being cleared.

0.06 problems...

As stated by "whitney" 0.06 was missing window_background.png. Anyway both of your problems should be fixed by 0.07 - this version also has much nicer check/radio buttons.

bg color of text

Is there a way to make the background color of normal text fields be white like other widgets instead of grey? It looks like they are disabled. For example, in the first screenshot the bottom field of the Load Image dialog.

Text colour

Oops...

Sorry, I've just noticed what you're referring to. I'll try to fix this - if I can...

Re: Oops..

Thanks

Looks good

It actually looks better than the "real" Keramik. I like the striped title bar, I never understood why it got removed from the original.

KDE icons

Like cwoelz mentioned, would it be possible to let GTK apps use the KDE icons also? The default GTK icons don't really fit with [G/K]eramik.

icons...

Ther is work on a common icon theme spec - see www.freedesktop.org. But this is a little bit more than what Geramik can do...

Font problems

fonts...

...but won't this override your font settings? Or does it act as a fallback? i.e. if ~/.kderc specified Arial, and GTK couldn't use that, would it then use "Sans 10" - or does it *always* use "Sans 10"??

acctaully

fonts...

Could you post the "font=" line from ~/.kderc? I'm a little confused as to why kderc would say Sans 10 - I would have thought it would say "Arial 10", "Helvetica 10", etc.. Geramik reads the kderc font= line to try to create f a font description to be used by GTK2.

RE: Font problems...

nope

naw. i'm using GAIM and GTK-DEMO (both gtk2) and the widget fonts are defaulting to times. for example, my font in gaim is tahoma. when i type in the imput box, it woyuld come up as times, but my buddy would see it as tahoma. i'll post a screenshot if you want to to explain it further

here is a screenshot

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4170 that's two boxes... hopefully explain themselves

and this

from .kderc font=adobe-helvetica,9,-1,5,0,0,0,0,0,0

fonts...

I'm using KDE 3.1rc3

and I'm going to try manually changing the line in kderc. i changed the font to helvetica in KControl in the first place, so i'm not sure how deleting kderc and resetting everything would help i'll try taht font line and see what goes

ah

success. i see now that it works PERFECTLY. thx for the help

Gtk2 gnome crashes

GNOME...

makes sense

Except the funny thing is... The dialog in gtk2 that tells me that gnome-settings-daemon has crashed and asks me if I want to send a bug report - its text is displayed in verdana, futhermore, it uses Geramik style widgets as well! Strange huh?

then...

Geramik and ThinGeramik GTK Themes

What problems are you having exactly?

If you send me an email, then I can send you a copy of 0.05. But i'd really like to know what issues you have with 0.06

As stated by "whitney" 0.06 was missing window_background.png.

Anyway both of your problems should be fixed by 0.07 - this version also has much nicer check/radio buttons.

Ther is work on a common icon theme spec - see www.freedesktop.org.

But this is a little bit more than what Geramik can do...

...but won't this override your font settings? Or does it act as a fallback? i.e. if ~/.kderc specified Arial, and GTK couldn't use that, would it then use "Sans 10" - or does it always use "Sans 10"??

Could you post the "font=" line from ~/.kderc? I'm a little confused as to why kderc would say Sans 10 - I would have thought it would say "Arial 10", "Helvetica 10", etc..

Geramik reads the kderc font= line to try to create f a font description to be used by GTK2.

http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4170

that's two boxes... hopefully explain themselves

from .kderc
font=adobe-helvetica,9,-1,5,0,0,0,0,0,0

Except the funny thing is...

The dialog in gtk2 that tells me that gnome-settings-daemon has crashed and asks me if I want to send a bug report - its text is displayed in verdana, futhermore, it uses Geramik style widgets as well! Strange huh?