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industrial-myst

   7.1.0  

GTK 2.x Theme/Style

Score 72%
industrial-myst
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Link:  http://
Minimum required   GNOME 2.x
Downloads:  6283
Submitted:  Oct 17 2004
Updated:  Oct 31 2004

Description:

You won't find any other theme that has paid so much attention to detail, form, compactness, color, accessibility and usability as industrial-myst has. Every widget has been meticulously constructed for efficiency and productivity.

industrial-myst leverages Ximian's tested, trusted and renowned theme technology to provide a breathe taking desktop experience. Using your desktop will not longer be boring and drab. In addition, industrial-myst provides a complete icon set to complement the theme.

Courtesy of Ximian's powerful theme technology, industrial-myst is light weight, smooth and fast, especially when contrasted with the multitude of pixmap-based themes that litter the arena. Upon installing industrial-myst, you would immediately be consumed by a clean, polished and vibrant environment.

industrial-myst is a work in progress. It will continue to be maintained, refined, enhanced and polished until it is perfect. So do make sure you stop by frequently for updates. As a gesture of good faith and community, I only seek and value your feedback, suggestions, criticisms and advice.

Thank you for your time, and for using industrial-myst!

Note:Please remove your industrial-myst theme before installing newer versions. For GNOME users, your theme folder is located at ~/.theme. Simply remove or delete the folder named "industrial-myst" before installing the newer version.




Changelog:

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Update - 10/30/2004
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- Seems to have fixed the menu issues
- Possible fix for the menu issues some are experiencing
- Fixed the Firefox focus ring issue
- Adjusted the size of icon on close buttons [ Thanks bvc! ]




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 looks strange

 
 by tig on: Oct 25 2004
 
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Your theme looks very good!
However, it does look good on your shots. But please have a look at mine.
Can you tell what I've done wrong?!

http://mitglied.lycos.de/tigia/screenshots/looksbad.jpg


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 Re: looks strange

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 26 2004
 
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Hello,

Do you have the industrial engine installed? If not, you may want to install your distribution's Ximian artwork package. Or you can download the engine from the link provided below and install it.

http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/672/

I hope that helps.


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 Re: Re: looks strang

 
 by tig on: Oct 26 2004
 
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Thanks, that did it!


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 Highlighted text

 
 by Fingel on: Oct 26 2004
 
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Seems to turn white. Not unuseable but annoying.


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 Re: Highlighted text

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 26 2004
 
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For consistency reasons, all hightlighted text in all widgets are white in this theme.


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 Some Comments

 
 by Rizo on: Oct 26 2004
 
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Not sure how this theme got such a high score. There are some serious problems with it that make it quite unusable:

- The widgets are too white.
- While the focus ring is neat, it is too wide and clutters the program
- There are size inconsistencies when widgets are side by side. In Galeon, try putting the zoom spinbox beside the address bar.
- The button icons are huge compared to the widgets.
- Overall, the programs become very clutterred.

Suggestions:

- The focus ring is mostly useful with mouse focus. Moving the mouse on top of widgets show highlight them (e.g. buttons, line edit, spinbox, drop down list widgets). In Gnome, you have to click on these widgets to make them come in focus. By this time, it doesn't add any benefits to the user.

- Keep the Industrial colours. Since XD2, I have yet to see a theme that is as usable as Industrial.

- Try to read the Gnome HIG and build your theme upon that. This is why I (and many other people) use Gnome and not KDE, because it provides a cleaner, more consistent UI than KDE.

Rizo


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 Re: Some Comments

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 27 2004
 
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- The widgets are too white.

The widgets aren't too white, they are white. That's the whole purpose of the theme.

- While the focus ring is neat, it is too wide and clutters the program

The focus ring has nothing to do with the program, can you provide screenshots to explain this phenomenum. It's just a ring around most text widgets.

- There are size inconsistencies when widgets are side by side. In Galeon, try putting the zoom spinbox beside the address bar.

Screenshots are appreciated, otherwise I consider it to be an industrial engine bug.


- The button icons are huge compared to the widgets.

Again screenshots are welcome, it's hard to try to picture the problem when you don't have screenshots. And you seem to be only person having this problem.

- Overall, the programs become very clutterred.

That's interesting because compared to the default industrial theme, this theme is a lot more compact. In anyway, the next release will make buttons a lot more compact and smaller.

- The focus ring is mostly useful with mouse focus. Moving the mouse on top of widgets show highlight them (e.g. buttons, line edit, spinbox, drop down list widgets). In Gnome, you have to click on these widgets to make them come in focus. By this time, it doesn't add any benefits to the user.

None of the GNOME theme engines have that capability. I don't know anyother operating system that has that capability either. This is not a problem with the theme.

- Keep the Industrial colours. Since XD2, I have yet to see a theme that is as usable as Industrial.

With all due respect, the Industrial theme is boring and drab. I don't like its icons set, and the theme in general makes me sleepy and so do other greyish brownish theme. I made this theme to keep users alert and happy.

- Try to read the Gnome HIG and build your theme upon that. This is why I (and many other people) use Gnome and not KDE, because it provides a cleaner, more consistent UI than KDE.

Which part of the HIG is my theme violating?


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 Re: Re: Some Comment

 
 by Rizo on: Oct 30 2004
 
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Here are two screenshots comparing plain industrial and your theme.

http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hrpakdel/0_in1.png
http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hrpakdel/1_in_myst1.png

http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hrpakdel/2_in2.png
http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hrpakdel/3_in_myst2.png

Overall, I find your theme too distracting. The white colour may be fine on LCDs, but on CRTs, it tires your eyes because of the high amount of light.

I'm not trying to put you down, but if you don't like critism, take your theme off line. I switched away from KDE because of too many crappy themes. The Gnome HIG has guidelines on widget sizes and spaces between them.

Reza


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 Re: Re: Re: Some Com

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 30 2004
 
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Hello,

Thanks for the screenshot and feedback. Your criticisms are welcome as long as they are presented in a constructive and mature manner.

I made a conscious effort to share the theme with the community because I liked it, and because I was convinced it can be improved upon based on the feedback of the community. I do not care for fame, grand ratings or popularity. All I care for is making a theme that is usable and unobstrusive.

It is a consensus among HCI experts that black on white and white on black themes are the most usable themes. Governments by law require that most operating systems have a high contrast theme for visually impaired users and also for accessibility reasons. Even GNOME has a several high contrast themes for accessibily reasons. And a few of them are black on white themes. Therefore, I respectfully disagree with you that my theme is unusable because of the theme color.

However, via your screenshots, I can see the reason you have problems with my theme. I mistakengly uploaded a test theme for a few minutes a few days ago. It seems, unfortunately, that you downloaded this test theme as it is clearly evident from your screenshot. It is my fault, and I should be spanked for that.

I decided to provide screenshots of Galeon and Nautilus using the current version of this theme.

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11842467/

http://www.deviantart.com/view/11842423/

I don't use Galeon, so I had to install it to take the screenshot. I also don't use Nautilus in browser mode so I had to change its configuration to fit that. But these screenshots are at their default setting and looks, nothing tweaked or changed.

As you can see my screenshots is vastly different from the screenshot you provided in too many areas to mention. So, I encourage you download the latest version of this theme and test it out. Your suggestions, criticisms and advice are very welcome.

Also, it is not my intention to copy any KDE theme or OS X theme or even Windows theme. This is a theme I designed for GNOME to be used by GNOME users and for maximum screen space, maximum usability and minimum obstrusiveness.

Regards


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Some

 
 by Rizo on: Oct 30 2004
 
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Thanks for the response. I tried the new version and the widget sizes are much improved.


However, I still do not like your colours :) And there some inconsistencies. I'm just hard to please . :)

I agree with you that a certain level of contrast is required, and I think there should be separate versions for for disabled (like Bluecurve).

Overall, the theme has improved, but I'm just much happier with the default industrial. Keep up the work.

BTW, I've seen focus rings on OSX and I believe they are great UI enhancements there.


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 Re: Some Comments

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 30 2004
 
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Hello again,

Color consistency has been a great issue I have tried to pay a lot of attention to with this theme. The theme basically makes use of three colors:

White: Which is the base color for all widgets and highlighted text

very light grey: Which is the color used when buttons are depressed, it is also the color of the trough which the scroll bar sits one, and also the color behind unused tabs, etc

Cadet Blue: Which is the color you will see when your mouse is over an item in a menu, a lighter version of the color is what you see behind text e.g location bar. It is also the color you see on progress bars and the status bar.

I have left out a lot of widgets, but the whole theme resonates around these three colors.

Now some people have been experiencing problems with menus and menu items. They've reported that the menu highlight is white as opposed to Cadet Blue and when the mouse is over a menu item, the text becomes invisible. Of course, this may lead many to believe the theme is inconsistent, and rightly so.

So if you are experiencing this problem, I will be uploading a fix for the problem soon, after I get feedback from the users testing the theme.

If however, you are not experiencing this problem, but you feel the theme colors are inconsistent for other reasons, I would love to hear your suggestions. The challenge with an all white theme is that one has to have a contrast color. Perhaps you don't like my contrast color, which is Cadet Blue or some variation of it. That is totally understandable. But your input is valid.

I might even make a theme using the default industrial colors. Although, frankly, I don't like the color combinations of it. In any case, I welcome more of your critics. If it doesn't help me make this theme better, it will certainly be at the back of my mind when I create my next theme. Good theme engines are hard to find these days. :-)

Cheers


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 Wallpaper

 
 by Biker on: Oct 27 2004
 
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Where can I find your Gentoo wallpaper (1280x1024) so I have an nice new complete theme?


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 Re: Wallpaper

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 28 2004
 
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http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/gentoo-artwork-0.4.tar.bz2


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 Re: Wallpaper

 
 by anonymous on: Oct 28 2004
 
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http://csociety-ftp.ecn.purdue.edu/pub/gentoo/distfiles/gentoo-artwork-0.4.tar.bz2


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 your icon theme

 
 by teknux on: Oct 29 2004
 
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hi there,
I'd like to know which icon theme are you using. I've seen it but I don't remember where :/

thanks for your work, sorry my (eventually) bad english ;)

cheers,
tek


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 Re: your icon theme

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 29 2004
 
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http://damas.on.neobee.net/teme/Suede.tar.bz2


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 few problems

 
 by Pied on: Oct 30 2004
 
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"They've reported that the menu highlight is white as opposed to Cadet Blue and when the mouse is over a menu item, the text becomes invisible. Of course, this may lead many to believe the theme is inconsistent, and rightly so.

So if you are experiencing this problem, I will be uploading a fix for the problem soon, after I get feedback from the users testing the theme."

I'm experiencing this problem (gnome-2.8).


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 Re: few problems

 
 by silenteef on: Oct 31 2004
 
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I just uploaded a possible fix. Kindly let me know if the problem still persists.

Thanks


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