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Tired of Ubuntu Wallpapers!


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Friends dont just let friends brand half naked women with ubuntu logos.

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 Badge

 
 by AMO88 on: Mar 6 2008
 
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Let's not be like the noobs at the ubuntu group - we need a nice badge!

Here's one I made:
http://i29.tinypic.com/2wcgplg.png
(If you can't make it out, it's Mona Lisa under the logo)

tw1ggz, could you set it as this group's badge?


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 Re: Badge

 
 by tw1ggz on: Mar 6 2008
 
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done. i like it!


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 Re: Re: Badge

 
 by AMO88 on: Mar 8 2008
 
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Yay!


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 filter

 
 by tw1ggz on: Mar 6 2008
 
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I think gnome-look should add a "dont show ubuntu" filter.


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 Re: filter

 
 by elenothar on: Mar 7 2008
 
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LOL.
awesome badge too.


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 i don't understand

 
 by strungoutfan78 on: Mar 7 2008
 
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so everyone has opinions. fine. flame away. i just really don't understand where all the hatred for ubuntu has spawned from. could someone please explain this to me? if it's really that bad could you cite some specifics about what makes ubuntu so much worse than any other distro?


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 Re: i don't understa

 
 by tw1ggz on: Mar 7 2008
 
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We're talking about the overflow of shitty ubuntu wallpapers here jack. Have you ever been in #ubuntu on freenode? its a cesspool of stupidity. Really, its a damn zoo in that channel.


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 Re: Re: i don't understa

 
 by elenothar on: Mar 7 2008
 
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it is not ubuntu i hate. it is the flood of crappy wallpapers with the ubuntu logo on it, especially when all someone did was steal someone else's work and drop the ubuntu logo on it. that really gets me.


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 Re: i don't understa

 
 by marcaemus on: Mar 7 2008
 
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Why should artwork be covered in corporate logos? Would you be happy with a flood of WindoZe branded artwork? They are both registered trademarks.

Its nothing against Ubuntu; its bought a lot of new people to GNU/linux.


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 The Badge

 
 by equinsuocha on: Mar 7 2008
 
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Badges? We don't need no -...Oh wait, The badge *rocks*!
And as the other posters have pointed out, the issue is not with ubuntu as a distro. Its about the flood of crappy, half-baked wallpaper submissions day in and day out. And yes, many nothing more than stolen art, or bimbo of the month with an Ubuntu logo plastered to the front of it.

The project has attracted so many outspoken, boorish, and complete Linux noobs, Thats its like the new AOL over there : 0

The "don't show ubuntu filter would be awesome, LOL.


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 For my final word

 
 by marcaemus on: Mar 7 2008
 
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Cheers for the group badge!

I thought the art.gnome.org policy was interesting to read. http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/SubmissionPolicy

In particular:
art.gnome.org tries to be a distribution independant site and therefore should not be biased to one distribution over another. The logos and names of distributions are also often trademarked and inclusion on art.gnome.org would violate rule 1. Additionally these themes can often contain slander that is inappropriate for the site. In the event you have a series of artwork/icons which contains non-copyrighted distribution specific images or information and is non-slanderous material, it may be accepted on a submission by submission basis, however in general any such submissions will be rejected.

As for the Ubuntu filter (hehe), those submissions could just be pushed over to ubuntu-art.org. I really wonder how many n00bs realise that Gnome isn't Ubuntu.


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 Re: For my final wor

 
 by strungoutfan78 on: Mar 8 2008
 
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In particular:
art.gnome.org tries to be a distribution independant site and therefore should not be biased to one distribution over another. The logos and names of distributions are also often trademarked and inclusion on art.gnome.org would violate rule 1. Additionally these themes can often contain slander that is inappropriate for the site. In the event you have a series of artwork/icons which contains non-copyrighted distribution specific images or information and is non-slanderous material, it may be accepted on a submission by submission basis, however in general any such submissions will be rejected.


this sounds to me like a moderator issue. i agree 100% that this site needs better moderation. and i also agree with the submission rules. there is ubuntu-art.org where all of these should be posted. on the same note, however, this would mean that all the archlinux, debian, gentoo, etc. submissions should be moved as well.


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 Re: For my final wor

 
 by Mojomahn on: Mar 8 2008
 
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Additionally these themes can often contain slander that is inappropriate for the site.

Could that possibly mean something like: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Ultimate?content=76429

When I first saw this group I completely agreed with it, but after looking through the comments I was a little put off.
"ubuntu is just consumer level crap"; "ubuntu n00bs"; "cesspool of stupidity...damn zoo"

As much as you all insist that it is JUST about the wallpapers, this really seems to be a group founded on ubuntu hate. Can anyone assure me with 100% certainty that it is not hate of ubuntu and ubuntu users?


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 Re: Re: For my final wor

 
 by elenothar on: Mar 8 2008
 
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some people maybe are driven by hate. it does not really matter as long as we all agree we are tired of crappy stolen art with ubuntu logos pasted on top.


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 Re: Re: For my final

 
 by robertn on: Mar 9 2008
 
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I am very Sorry for Uploading Ubuntu Wallpapers on your GNOME Site.
Would you like me to delete my Account? No Problem. I surely will!

I will move the stuff to http://www.ubuntu-art.org Thanks for that.

By the Way...Your group is also visible there!

Everyone is welcome to get all the Work, not only mine, even without logos. But in some cases you just have to ask. ;-)

I do not believe that this is a Discussion about Ubuntu as a Distribution.
There are many Chameleon Wallpapers at KDE-look but no comparable Suse discussions.

I also don't believe that the reason here is some sort of elitist hacker behaviour.
Everyone knows that no ingenious Linux hacker has ever been born as one. Everyone is a beginner first and popularity brings new beginners. In the long run most of them they will learn. ;-) So please be nice to them, they try to love YOUR work and the Linux principals.

The problem of equinsuocha for example seems to be that Ubuntu is an African distribution. Maybe I got this impression because English is not my first language but I think "...or bimbo of the month,..." is not only a politically incorrect term.
If you hate Ubuntu because it is a bimbo-term, ... !

I don't continue this.

Add a distribution filter but you will not get rid of such depressing discussions with it. Maybe you need an anti discrimination paragraph.

I am convinced that the great majority of Linux freaks is neither racist nor elitist.

greethings


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 Re: Re: Re: For my f

 
 by AMO88 on: Mar 9 2008
 
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Robert,

I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding.

We're not being racist (racist?!) or elitist. Ubuntu is a great distribution for beginners. Although it is unfortunate that many of them choose not to learn more about Linux, the existence of this distro helps all of us because it increases our presence and raises awareness of Linux's existence.

Some people get carried away, but in this group, what we're trying to convey is that we do not like that lots of wallpapers have the "Ubuntu" slapped onto it for absolutely no good reason. I looked through your contents, and I personally don't have any problem with your works. They actually convey the Ubuntu "human" style and color scheme. You have a version without the logo, and it is actually your own photo.

In contrast, here are the first four Ubuntu I came across when looking for examples of these BAD ubuntu wallpapers that we're against:

Example 1
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Bimbuntu?content=76437
- Relevance to Ubuntu? None - Could easily have any other distro's tattoo.
- Own creation? Highly unlikely based on other submissions.
- Variant without "Ubuntu"? No.

Example 2
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Gutsy+tears?content=76411
- Relevance to Ubuntu? None. The writing across her face makes it even worse.
- Own creation? Unlikely.
- Variant without "Ubuntu"? No.

Example 3
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Linux+Glace+(Frenchy-Style)?content=76213
- Relevance to Ubuntu? Absolutely none.
- Own creation? No.
- Variant without logo? Probably exists but link not given.

Example 4
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Bellissima?content=75951
- Relevance to Ubuntu? Brownish background?
- Own creation? No.
- Variant without logo? No.

So, the bottom line is that if we liked any of those wallpapers, we can not use them simply because we don't use Ubuntu.

Disclaimer: I am a KDE user and I don't usually go to gnome-look

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: For

 
 by robertn on: Mar 9 2008
 
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Alec,

I agree... Ubuntu brings you a lot of Linux Beginners, some resistant to learn, o.k. I joke about this myself. :-) No Problem.
I agree... these uploads like them you collected are bad but there are very easy solutions for it.
- If you do not like a Wallpaper, you can click on the "Bad Vote" Button.
- If a Wallpaper is copyrighted content, you can report this and it can be deleted.
- If there is a Wallpaper only with Logo again but you like it without, ...contact the Person kindly and I am pretty sure that you get the picture without Logo within a day and the one will happily do another upload of the blank pic.

There is... some statements upwards... the following sentence:
"And yes, many nothing more than stolen art, or bimbo of the month with an Ubuntu logo plastered to the front of it."
And what kind of comment is this: "ubuntu is just consumer level crap" ?

What smells here is the Word: Bimbo in Combination with
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Ubuntu+Ultimate?content=76429

Maybe somehow a Funny pic for itself but I think that this Combination with: "No Ubuntu Wallpapers" as a Package looks pretty racist, doesn't it?
This seems like a problem of a racist attitude towards black African people and a resulting hate to Ubuntu because of intolerance. And even if this is a misunderstanding... It is misunderstandable and inappropriate.

The sexist pictures are not better but this is a different problem and not your Theme here. Would be a good theme but it isn't now. This discussion here is about the "bimbo of the month with an Ubuntu logo"-Distribution. No Ubuntu just sounds like No bimbos.

"No Ubuntu Wallpapers" is not the same like
"no sexist Pics with Ubuntu Tatoos" or "no copyrighted content wit Tux" or "Add logoless Versions!",... "Distribution Filters Now!"

So I said and say again: The very great majority of the Linux Community (99,9999%) is NOT racist or elitist! And I am pretty sure about that. Otherwise I would not be so frustrated.

Possibly I misunderstood it but others will misunderstand it too but say nothing.
There could be better names for this group if you would like to express something different.

Think about it, try to imagine yourself in an Ubuntu-Users and gnome loving position.


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 Too many RE:s

 
 by marcaemus on: Mar 9 2008
 
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Not sure where this African thing came from but Ubuntu (linux distro) is the registered trade mark of Canonical Ltd a company with headquarters in Europe.


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 No more RE:s

 
 by robertn on: Mar 9 2008
 
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Right. Ubuntu is a Trademark but free for non-commercial purposes. Linux is also a registered trademark but I think its open for commercial use.

Ähm.. you are not sure where this African thing came from?
I don't want to bore you but if you like I will tell you about African Pilosophy.

I try a short definition.
There is no equivalent word in European languages for Ubuntu. It is not translateable because it came from a different philosophical understanding of live. The word came from the Zulu and Xhosa languages of the southern Africa but the traditional philosophic concept reaches up to the Sahara. There is a describing Zulu concept: "umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu" - which means that a person is only a person through their relationship to others.
Umuntu - A person, ngumuntu - is a person, nga - through/by, bantu - people (actually abantu) 'I am because you are, and you are because we are.' An African Proverb says: It takes the whole village to raise a child. This is what Ubuntu means. Isn't this the credo of Linux?

In this philosophical concept all humans are connected by a spiritual Network, including the dead, the living and the not yet born ones. There is nothing you can do without affecting the others. Everyone has to care about the others. Everyone is diminished when others are humiliated or diminished, when others are tortured or oppressed.
(Including outspoken, boorish noobs ;-) )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(philosophy)



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 RE:s No More

 
 by marcaemus on: Mar 9 2008
 
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Yes I know that. That's why I wrote 'Ubuntu (linux distro)' to clarify what I was talking about. Thanks for the lecture.


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 RE:s No More

 
 by marcaemus on: Mar 9 2008
 
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I understand the word and where it comes from, that's why i wrote 'Ubuntu (linux distro)' to clarify. But thanks for the lecture.


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 Re: RE:s No More

 
 by robertn on: Mar 10 2008
 
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Sorry, I Missunderstood, again.
Just wanted to be nice. Really!

So it is clear that this is GNOME Content Site, sorry again, and I moved out all unremoveable Ubuntu-Crap Logos to Ubuntu-Art Crap site. Hope all other Ubuntu designers will follow.

Maybe when I have time I will make some Real Gnome-Logo Wallpapers. :-)



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 Re: RE:s No More

 
 by marcaemus on: Mar 10 2008
 
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sorry robert, i was a little snappy just then. no insult intended. i think the group is starting to get way off-topic.


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 Re: Re: Re: For my f

 
 by AMO88 on: Mar 9 2008
 
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Robert,

I think we have a bit of a misunderstanding.

We're not being racist (racist?!) or elitist. Ubuntu is a great distribution for beginners. Although it is unfortunate that many of them choose not to learn more about Linux, the existence of this distro helps all of us because it increases our presence and raises awareness of Linux's existence.

Some people get carried away, but in this group, what we're trying to convey is that we do not like that lots of wallpapers have the "Ubuntu" slapped onto it for absolutely no good reason. I looked through your contents, and I personally don't have any problem with your works. They actually convey the Ubuntu "human" style and color scheme. You have a version without the logo, and it is actually your own photo.

In contrast, here are the first four Ubuntu I came across when looking for examples of these BAD ubuntu wallpapers that we're against:

Example 1
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Bimbuntu?content=76437
- Relevance to Ubuntu? None - Could easily have any other distro's tattoo.
- Own creation? Highly unlikely based on other submissions.
- Variant without "Ubuntu"? No.

Example 2
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Gutsy+tears?content=76411
- Relevance to Ubuntu? None. The writing across her face makes it even worse.
- Own creation? Unlikely.
- Variant without "Ubuntu"? No.

Example 3
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Linux+Glace+(Frenchy-Style)?content=76213
- Relevance to Ubuntu? Absolutely none.
- Own creation? No.
- Variant without logo? Probably exists but link not given.

Example 4
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Bellissima?content=75951
- Relevance to Ubuntu? Brownish background?
- Own creation? No.
- Variant without logo? No.

So, the bottom line is that if we liked any of those wallpapers, we can not use them simply because we don't use Ubuntu.

Disclaimer: I am a KDE user and I don't usually go to gnome-look

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 Re: Re: For my final

 
 by tw1ggz on: Mar 9 2008
 
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lol, my wife used to use ubuntu. Thank heavens she learned to use FreeBSD.


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 by tw1ggz on: Mar 9 2008
 
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if any of you irc, feel welcome to connect to my ircd and bitch about ubuntu or ubuntu wallpapers all you want! irc.meganet.us #core . Hope to see some of you there.


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