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 2009 is good but

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Nov 26 2008  
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mountloop doesn't work anymore. so i really can't switch to this great release. if anyone knows of a solution, let me know please. for now i am using fedora 9. anyway, there's no ppc release so my ibook G4 can only run fedora

i miss you, mandy
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 Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by yoho on: Nov 26 2008  
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mountloop was using a deprecated and unsecure part of the linux kernel. It is no longer maintained, in any distribution. Luks is now the prefered way, but using it as a normal user is currently impossible (or you have to use sudo). On top of that, there's no more graphical tool to manage it. The problem will be fixed in 2009.1.

I've blogged about this problem a long time ago (in french).

http://yohofr.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/drakloop-obsolete-mais-luks-est-il-un-remplacant-suffisant/


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 Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Nov 27 2008  
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mm.. are you saying that using LUKS as normal user is not possible and that there is also no graphical tool for it? Or are you referring to mountloop? will mountloop support return in 2009.1? I have stacks of DVD's of data encrypted with mountloop and frankly speaking, i cant see why i should have to re-do them all just to use 2009. I'd rather keep 2008 and switch to fedora as a more reliable distribution, seeing as mandriva has left us all stranded this time. I have completely decrypted my root and home using luks on fedora and i didn';t need a degree in computer science to do it either. it was easier to that than it is on the mac. maybe my biggest mistake was trusting the mandriva distribution :-( sad. i know all about the insecure aspect and all that, but i don't care about that really. i made a choice then, to use mountloop. it worked for me and still does. now i am left without anything but an older version of mandriva to access data. excuse me but i don't know the french for "that sucks".


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 Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by donaldstewart on: Nov 27 2008  
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Is there a bug report for this on qa.mandriva.com?


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by yoho on: Nov 27 2008  
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Better than that : a release note. http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Notes#Support_for_loopback-based_encrypted_filesystems


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Dec 26 2008  
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thank you KIND sir. it's an inconvenience = i and many others have been considering ways around dealing with it. Truecrypt seems like the best way to go. What i need is a secure encrypted home and root and a portable option that moves across different Operating Systems if possible and which i can burn to DVD. LUKS with Truecrypt for burning seemed to be an option but if u read further down here, you will see the trouble with LUKS on fedora 9 and truecrypt on Mandriva and fedora as well. There isn't an easy way to install truecrypt even on fedora and real crypt is "going soon".

REALLY considering OpenSuse or Ubuntu unstead of all this, and alredy working on taking my iBook back to Tiger with SECURE RELIABLE ENCRYPTION FROM MAC and Truecrypt.dmg

Sad but stupidly true.


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 Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Nov 27 2008  
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p.s. isn't realcrypt reliant on LUKS? because i installed and ran realcrypt on 2009 without having to go sudo. but to put all my mountloop data on real/true crypt folders will take about two months of dedicated activity. if i really wanted that, i would use truecrypt on fedora as i am doing now anyway with new data. realcrypt didn't have graphical tool until late in 2008 as i recall.

how about full root/home encryption at install like fedora 9 has? 2009.2?


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by yoho on: Nov 27 2008  
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You compare Mandriva with mountloop and Fedora with luks, it's like comparing carrots and dogs. Fedora has no mountloop. mountloop was using a kernel module which is now deprecated and insecure.

Of course mandriva can do everything like fedora if you use luks encryption, including encrypting your root / home partitions.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by yoho on: Nov 27 2008  
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Realcrypt is yet another system and is totally incompatible with luks and mountloop.

I think you should read those two articles :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disk_encryption_software

And the page about cryptoloop (the kernel module which was used by mountloop) :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptoloop


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Dec 26 2008  
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"carrots and dogs and my donkey and my ass. I am not comparing anything to anything. I have read countless release notes after mandriva 2008. I am stating my woes (which i have seen are the woes of many out here). I am very aware of mountloop being a mandriva EXPERIMENT that may have gone sour (kernel or not; users are left stranded or in serious difficulty after using a tool provided by Mandriva distro. Period.

I am aware that LUKS encryption is possible on any distro, only that Fedora 9 installer made it very easy (EVEN for someone as stupid as myself who compares dogs to oranges).

NOW FOR AN Season 2 of thsi series: A Fedora 9 update destroyed my LUKS header so that i lost all my data on a partition. this is the conclusioon I have reached because that's what happened. When rebooting I was met with a message that NO KEY EXISTS FOR THAT PASSPHRASE. So.. I removed fedora 9 and tried MAndriva 2009.0 (back to the dogs from the lemons - stupid me)

Before this happened, I decided to use Truecrypt on Fedora because Realcrypt GUI at first was so hard to install and using it from console is too complex for me right now (sorry, I'M STUPID). Now the good news is that Realcrypt will vanish off the face of the planet due to licencing issues and there will be no Truecrypt without complex building from source as from 2009.1

Realcrypt doesn't even work properly on 2009.0 - none of my partitions are recognised which i created using Truecrypt on Fedora 9.

So WHERE TO FROM HERE? Anyone tell me I don;t have to install Tiger on my laptop and forget about putting valuable data in any LUKS partition. I won't do it after my experience with fedora. I cant use MOUNTLOOP which (unstable whatever and kernel problem - IT WORKED WELL) - LUKS = LOSE Ure Key System and data again with another update - I can't use TRUECRYPT without building from source BECAUSE I AM A FOOL WHO COMPARES DOGS TO ASSES.. maybe i have to use Tiger OS?

tired of losing data due to kernel update and whatever dogs changing to asses
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009 is good but

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Dec 26 2008  
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what i meant was is realcrypt reliant on TRUECRYPT (not LUKS) - i think it is the same thing only a different GUI. but i am stupid so don't take my word.


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 Where it the thread?

 
 by donaldstewart on: Nov 26 2008  
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Where is the thread on the Mandy forums and I will take a look?

There hasn't been ppc support for ages, it is a huge shame.


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 Re: Where it the thread?

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Nov 27 2008  
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ppc support exists on fedora and debian. i want to believe in something, so i believe that it will always be there for me and my lovely ibook. we feel so unloved by mandriva right now. once again.. does anyone know the french for "that sucks"?


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 Re: Re: Where it the thread?

 
 by donaldstewart on: Nov 27 2008  
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Sorry to hear that, luckily for me, the best thing for my G3's is to be decorations.


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 Re: Re: Re: Where it the threa

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Nov 27 2008  
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do u mean you don't use the G3's anymore? the thing is, the ibook g4 works great still. mandriva is a nice distro.. but there are too many reasons for me to switch to fedora. the lack of reliable and easy encryption is a big big mess.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Where it the threa

 
 by donaldstewart on: Nov 27 2008  
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It is the only distro I trust, they have realcrypt, but I don't use encryption so I can't help that much.

The G3's are a bit past it know, and I have a laptop so all is good.

I don't find Fedora that professional in the way that it finished its releases, or the themes it ships, Mandriva just seems that bit more polished.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where it t

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Nov 27 2008  
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fedora is on a strict time schedule regarding releases. that's the nature of that distro and as such, there are advantages and disadvantages. one is that it might not ship as ready as mandriva claims to be. on the other hand, i have found the last three mandriva releases fell far short of what was promised. i also like mandriva's look and the ease of use is the best. but it has so many holes. encryption is possible but you need time and skill. no ppc (why not?). and then my other gripe is that some of the software it ships is outdated like showFoto which i use all the time. Fedora 9 has a more recent version than 2008.1 does. all about appearance and promises and no follow through. i installed it for many friends when i was confident about it. but now many of them have stuck with MS. they are fed up with mountloop. nice going mandy. disappointed.


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Where it t

 
 by donaldstewart on: Nov 27 2008  
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Fedora 9 came out a good bit after 2008.1, ppc support, Mandriva is a small company, they don't have RedHat funding them.

Mandriva sticks to its release schedule very well, and I don't know what you have found lacking in the last 3 releases, I have found them very good.

2009 being the slight exception, but with LXDE or Gnome it was very good.



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 2009.1 artwork released

 
 by donaldstewart on: Apr 29 2009  
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For 2009.1 I have done some Spring themed wallpapers and screensavers,

I hope you like them:
http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Mandriva+Background+Project+Wallpapers?content=103725

http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php/Mandriva+Background+Project+Screensavers?content=103721

http://themoralcarnivore.deviantart.com
http://mandriva.com
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 Re: 2009.1 artwork released

 
 by TtfnJohn on: Apr 30 2009  
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I'll have to have peek at this once I've torrented 2009.1 PWC down. Could be a bit. Just released today too late for early seeders but complete!


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 Re: Re: 2009.1 artwork released

 
 by donaldstewart on: Apr 30 2009  
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Torrenting them all down now, it should work for 2009 as well.

Can't wait for it to finish, although I do pretty much have it with current cooker.

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 Re: Re: Re: 2009.1 artwork released

 
 by alanwall420 on: May 1 2009  
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I am a Mandriva club member but could not find the torrent so am doing it the old fashion way :(
Do you have a link to the torrent so when I have finished dling the iso I can seed it ?
Thanks !


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009.1 artwork released

 
 by donaldstewart on: May 1 2009  
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The non PWP torrents are here: http://torrent.mandriva.com/public/2009.1/

PWP is here: http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/bin/view/Downloads/MyTorrents

You will need to log in, I got to there from my.mandriva.com-->services-->PWP download zone-->My torrents if they are not already displayed.

http://themoralcarnivore.deviantart.com
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009.1 artwork released

 
 by alanwall420 on: May 3 2009  
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Thanks ! Am replying with 2009.1
It was my mistake not seeing the torrents
as they did not have 2009.1 in front of them ! :(
the iso from France did not burn right but the torrent did :)


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2009.1 artwork released

 
 by donaldstewart on: May 3 2009  
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Glad its working.

I've already jumped to cooker, kde4 svn is how should I put it, broken.

http://themoralcarnivore.deviantart.com
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 Cooker 2010

 
 by buntersalamander on: May 10 2009  
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workin with cooker an it's fine for me, maybe better than spring. the 2009.1 seams to be a little bit slow.


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 encrypted data - backup to dvd

 
 by pixelsofdreams on: Nov 1 2009  
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still no wasy way to perform this process. i've not achieved success running realcrypt or truecrypt on mandriva. been attempting to backup to a LUKS DVD but so far, can't perform any methods suggested on the web.

basically - how can i take encrypted data from Hard drive and backup to CD or DVD?

mandriva users had the option before 2009 of using mountloop (with an easy GUI drakloop) which did the job perfectly. but now we are left stranded without any alternatives. any suggestions?


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