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Open-PC progress


By Frank
Published: Nov 9 2009
FrankFrank
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I just want to informed about the latest news from the Open-PC project.

We just received the first Open-PC prototype. So we are really close to announcing the hardware and the price of the first Open-PC.
We are also working on the Operating System to make nice defaults and beautiful custom artwork. We will probably bundle the PC with Software Support but we are still working on the contracts at the moment.

Other questions are how we open up the development of the Operating System. We will probably set up a openSUSE build service project so that everybody can participate.

We will announce the final product soon.
Thank you all for the patience.


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 Why suse???

 
 by tomatz on: Nov 27 2009  
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tomatztomatz

If you are marketing this product at (mainly) linux novices surely suse is a bad choice? What about an easier to use distro with easier to use package management? I really mean no disrespect to you or the devs of suse (i love suse) but it is one of the more hardcore distros :)


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 Re: Why suse???

 
 by nedi27 on: Dec 12 2009  
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nedi27nedi27

They are don´t talking about openSUSE, they are talking about the opensuse build service, and fedora and ubuntu, opensuse working with this engine, so dont talk about opensuse or SuSE, they only work with the buildservice.

P.S. Opensuse is Great:-)


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 Re: Why suse???

 
 by Fri13 on: Dec 21 2009  
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Fri13inactive user

And if OpenSUSE is someway difficult distribution, then we should not even consider the Ubuntu to be easy because you need more commandline experience on Ubuntu than on OpenSUSE. OpenSUSE has lots of graphical tools, central configuration application for such task what are usually needed even by 'user joe'. Thats why Ubuntu is not good because it does not have nice graphical configuration tools.

If it would be up to me, I would choose only OpenSUSE or Mandriva to be used. Both are easier than Ubuntu because their own configuration software and even can offer almost all needed software. You do not need tens of thousands packages what Ubuntu people are always taunting, because it is not real count of application programs what is available.

Ubuntu on these days is good choise because you have so many n00bs using it so they can even offer somekind support by personally, even that they do not really know what they are doing, it is better than nothing.

What is Linux and GNU/Linux?
http://tinyurl.com/532kb8
http://tinyurl.com/mum9x
http://tinyurl.com/ngarn8
http://tinyurl.com/qhuhg
http://tinyurl.com/3uaq48
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 Why SUSE?

 
 by lordpenguin on: Dec 3 2009  
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lordpenguinlordpenguin

I wouldn't call SUSE hardcore by any stretch of the imagination. Especially when it comes with such a nice package management utility. The important thing is progress.


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 Opensuse wouldnt be my choose

 
 by Kenichi on: Dec 4 2009  
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Okay that opensuse wouldnt be my choose has all the do, that I prefer Kubuntu, but if you ask me Opensuse is a better choose then Kubuntu.

Novell can provide professional support, and opensuse is easyer for new people to Linux.


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 Re: Opensuse wouldnt be my choose

 
 by readmylogs on: Dec 5 2009  
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Suse does not interest me. It reminds me of a bland overloaded user unfriendly operating system.

Ubuntu works for me, although the default appearance lacks much for the american market. It does the job

Linux Mint looks great and I don't like the color green much. I discovered it yesterday, I like it alot.

1. Desktop, ect. look and feel similar to windows (something almost everyone in the world is familiar with).

2. "Out of the box" results, no drivers needed for a hp dv series laptop.

3. Software Included is useful for me.

If Suse is the only way, CHANGE THE NAME TO SOMETHING NEW! like "Linux Lime" or something different. Make people think its new and better... like what microsoft did with windows 7 (it's vista pretty much, but thats the secret).


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 Re: Re: Opensuse wouldnt be my choose

 
 by nedi27 on: Dec 12 2009  
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nedi27nedi27

Re: Re: Opensuse wouldnt be my choice

openSUSE is not so bad for newbies.

openSUSE has a systemengine like windoows, with network and runlevel and a graphic interface to set up the graphics card. opensuse has the qt standard, for newbies it is better then gtk.

gtk is good but, QT is easier to learn, or is similar to Windows.


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 Re: Re: Opensuse wouldnt be my choose

 
 by Fri13 on: Dec 21 2009  
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Fri13inactive user

Quote:
Suse does not interest me. It reminds me of a bland overloaded user unfriendly operating system.


What Linux kernel has so overloaded in OpenSUSE? Out of box device drivers? Offered filesystems? Something else? And why the Linux kernel is so user unfriendly operating system in OpenSUSE than any other distribution? You do not use the OS directly, you do not see or even hear it, so what makes it really so bad when comparing example the release/version of Linux what Ubuntu use?

What is Linux and GNU/Linux?
http://tinyurl.com/532kb8
http://tinyurl.com/mum9x
http://tinyurl.com/ngarn8
http://tinyurl.com/qhuhg
http://tinyurl.com/3uaq48
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 Re: Re: Re: Opensuse wouldnt be my choose

 
 by nedi27 on: Dec 23 2009  
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nedi27nedi27

the opensuse Kernel is not so tricky, the most i´ve made with my kernel, i searched for answers in the ubuntu forum, however it is the most frequently visit forum, with good tricks. i use opensuse and many others of my friends also too and they like it, they´re all newbies and have no problems, ubuntu is nt the best but they have the best marketing :-)

sorry for my bad english


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 It's just a Build Service

 
 by Thailandian on: Dec 5 2009  
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ThailandianThailandian
Teacher Plus Foundation

It's a reasonable mistake to make, but the OpenSuse build service does not necessarily mean using the OpenSuse OS.

There are already packages available there for Fedora, RHEL, CentOS, Mandriva, Debian and Ubuntu.

I'm not associated with this project, but from Frank's original posting, it looks more like they are developing a new OS.

EWAP
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 Re: It's just a Build Service

 
 by Fri13 on: Dec 21 2009  
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Fri13inactive user

Quote:
it looks more like they are developing a new OS.


No they are not. They use Linux kernel, not a new OS at all. No one does not on these days develop new OS if it is not really crucial. Building a new OS takes years and when you now look the Linux (kernel), you can not say it has not get be success as a OS.

On these days if you want Open Source OS, you need to turn to BSD family (free-, Net-, Open- and DragonBSD's) of OS's or then use Linux (kernel) or even try GNU's own OS called Hurd.

Developing a new OS would be very stupid move for this kind computer. They just do not have manpower to develop such or even maintain if they would succeed to develop new OS. And they want to offer already great system so Linux (kernel) is great OS to be used for such goals what this Project has.

What is Linux and GNU/Linux?
http://tinyurl.com/532kb8
http://tinyurl.com/mum9x
http://tinyurl.com/ngarn8
http://tinyurl.com/qhuhg
http://tinyurl.com/3uaq48
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 Re: Re: It's just a Build Service

 
 by Thailandian on: Dec 21 2009  
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ThailandianThailandian
Teacher Plus Foundation

Sorry I should have said "distro" rather than OS.

My point is the OpenSuse Build Service does not mean OpenSuse distro, as also expressed by Syam.

EWAP
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 Timing

 
 by lmeuli on: Dec 7 2009  
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lmeulilmeuli

early fall 2009 ist already past, when can we aspect the open-pc?

Luibanes
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 openSUSE Build Service

 
 by syam on: Dec 12 2009  
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syamsyam
Habib Bank AG Zurich

openSUSE Build Service is an excellent, flexible service. It is quick to set up and easy to use for creating any sort of open-source project.

When we talk about open-pc, we should not be talking about any specific linux distro. Instead, we should have all the software components working properly to utilized the hardware components on the PC. So, out of the box, an optimized kernel and all necessary drivers should be available.


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 Re: openSUSE Build Service

 
 by Thailandian on: Dec 21 2009  
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ThailandianThailandian
Teacher Plus Foundation

An excellent point!!!

I have just been burnt, buying a notebook that I thought should work with Linux out of the box because it was preloaded with it. It turned out that this was just a way for Acer to ream a loophole through a clause in its contract with M$ that it cannot sell computers without an OS (ANY OS!) installed.

I guess it never occurred to Acer that anyone might actually want to USE Linux instead of replacing it with a pirate copy of Window$!

So, I would LOVE to have the choice of a range of computers and other hardware that are specifically designed to work with Linux, "out of the box" without all the usual hassles that we encounter.

However, I'm not sure I would be prepared to change distros for that, and clearly, I'm not alone. In this thread, much of the discussion has already degenerated into arguments about preferred and non-preferred distros, and how often do we see this in FOSS forums.

Lets face it, most of us are very attached to our distro, not just Linux, GNU Hurd, BSD or FOSS in general. The love/hate remarks above about OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mandriver and other distros surely illustrate this point. We love and cheer our favoured distro, and boo the opposition, much as others cheer and boo football teams.

So, rather than come up with yet another flavour, I would hope that most effort goes into making sure that there are drivers for the PC's hardware that all FOSS OS's cum distros can easily integrate.

Apart from being a magnificent contribution to the FOSS community, it would also make excellent business sense. The FOSS community is still relatively small. Why not maximise your market?

EWAP
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